By Rostislav Ishchenko
Translated by Ollie Richardson and Angelina Siard
cross posted with http://www.stalkerzone.org/rostislav-ishchenko-kiev-will-abolish-the-ukrainian-army-just-to-spite-putin/
source: https://ukraina.ru/opinion/20180704/1020558385.html
Kiev Will “Abolish” the Ukrainian Army Just to Spite Putin
The army is not just soldiers (summoned, mobilised or employed under contract), not only officers and generals who graduated from schools and academies, not only weapons and equipment, and not only rear services and HQs. The army, first of all, is a tradition.
It’s not a coincidence that certain armies were traditionally considered as strong adversaries, and others that weren’t inferior to them in terms of weapons and numbers were considered as weak. For example, in 1940-1941 the British army were fivefold inferior to the Italians in terms of weapons and numbers, but crushed them in Libya and Egypt, having put them on the verge of destruction. But Hitler sent Rommel to Africa, and the latter (together with German divisions) for over two more years aggressively pursued the British, three-four times superior in terms of numbers, across the desert.
When traditions are lost, the army instantly loses its fighting capacity. Thus, for example, the corps of the former imperial army “Ukrainianised” by the Provisional government collapsed before the eyes. Afterwards not only the Directorate, but also Hetman Skoropadsky (who also commanded one of such corps) couldn’t recruit a sufficient number of defenders of his power from among the populous Ukraine. People went to anyone: to whites, to reds, to Atamans, but not to Ukrainianised units. The ones that nevertheless managed to be created distinguished themselves not by feats on the fronts of the civil war (Denikin’s Cossacks in general expelled them from Kiev with lashes), but by being responsible for 70% of the Jewish pogroms that took place in the years of war in Ukraine.
The reputation of being an army of pogromists was so loud that the French court, on the basis of this data, even acquitted Petliura’s murderer Sholom Schwartzbard as the avenger for his relatives killed during pogroms. And after all, the same people who served in Petliura’s haidamakas also heroically fought on the fronts of World War I under the Russian imperial banner. “Just” a loss of traditions turned yesterday’s heroes into a rabble worse than bandits. Bandit-Atamans —in their majority former Petliura’s officers who left his army with their units and even divisions, because the depth of moral decay of this “army” was too excessive even for them.
Thus, we can safely say that the abolition of traditions destroys the army more effectively than the most horrifying enemy. This axiom is known since the most ancient times. That’s why all military leaders, statesmen, and human communities sought to do everything so that their armed forces were built on the basis of a powerful and ancient tradition, so that they cherished the memory of the victories of ancestors, and so that they sought to increase their glory.
There is, however, one unique State that tries to build itself up contrary to the entire global experience. It already almost disappeared from the political map of the world. It isn’t noticed any more by former allies, and the western neighbors who recently became kindly intended in relation to it started impudently preparing themselves for the partitioning of its territory. But it, with persistence worthy of the best application, tries to use the entire human experience in exactly the opposite way. This State is Ukraine.
Ukraine has no stronger enemy that its own leadership. Enemies, spies, saboteurs, and pests simply wouldn’t believe that it is possible to destroy the basic foundations of one’s own statehood so openly, frankly, with conviction, and with impunity. But Ukrainian leaders do everything so that Ukrainian statehood can’t be saved after they leave, even under the most favorable conditions and with external help.
It would seem that, after destroying the economy, finance, education, healthcare, the municipal sphere, the decomposition of state bureaucracy and law enforcement bodies, the only remaining force cementing Ukraine is the army. Yes, it can’t repel an external attack – even the attacks of the manyfold weaker armed forces. Yes, it isn’t even able to win the internal civil war in Donbass. But this is the only State institute whose benefit isn’t called into question by the majority (this shouldn’t be confused with effectiveness, which, of course, doesn’t exist and isn’t expect to one day exist) and which acts on all the territory of the country and unites in its ranks military personnel from all regions without exception.
Certainly, several decades of selling off army property and plundering the budgets has put the Ukrainian army in a difficult position. The strongest blow to its moral base was struck by the civil war, in which the army acted against its own people (albeit a part of them), and during which the professional structure was in many respects replaced with unscrupulous gastarbeiters who came to serve in order to earn money to live.
Nevertheless, the tradition that elevated the history of Ukrainian military units and divisions to the level of their Soviet predecessors, who won glorious victories that were retained in their names, was preserved and kept this semi-decayed and semi-plundered army that was almost killed by its own State above the water. During the Debaltsevo operation of January-February, 2015 this army even showed the known persistence in defense, doomed in advance because of the inadequate and thievish leadership. It is interesting that those who defended themselves appealed precisely to the Russian-Soviet tradition to stand to the last.
Paratroopers of this army, even if they have never jumped with a parachute, nevertheless remembered Vasily Filippovich Margelov, were proud of blue berets and the motto “Nobody except us!” exactly in the same way that marines who have never been on distant campaigns lived with the memories of the great past of their units and divisions. The entire army lived in the past. Without the past it stopped being an army and finally became what it represented — an armed rabble.
The first time a blow was struck to the past was when new uniforms were issued, which had nothing in common had with the army’s traditions. The fight put up by air and sea paratroopers to preserve their mottoes, emblems, and the colour of their berets testifies to the sharpness of the problem, as well as the intuitive awareness of it at the lower level along with the absolute indifference of the top level. But this is still half of the trouble. Almost all armies change the colour and cut of their uniforms. Many armies switch from epaulettes to tabs and back, periodically putting signs of distinction on the sleeve and/or on the head wear. It happen that the colour of berets changes too. New generations come and gradually get used to it.
But it is impossible to get used to the absence of tradition. If, according to official historians, Ukraine has existed for several millennia and all this time was a large military power battling for its independence, then where are the traces of these victories? And if, as the older generation in the families of current military personnel remember, Ukraine fought against an external enemy in the same ranks with other republics of the USSR, then why are the traces of these glorious affairs being destroyed?
It is exactly at the second stage that military history and the army tradition come under strike. Having found himself in a deranged state after the publication of decrees of the President of Russia concerning the assignment of honourable names to 11 military units and divisions, the Chief of the Ukrainian General Staff Viktor Muzhenko demanded from his subordinates in the shortest possible time to finish the “decommunisation” of the army. He motivated his actions by the law on the ban of communist and nazi symbolics.
It’s truth that in the Ukrainian army there is no fight against nazi symbols, there is even the explain (from Vyatrovich) that they aren’t nazi, but national Ukrainian symbols. But they lump in everything with communist symbols – not only State Soviet (which, although isn’t communist in itself, belonged to the State run by the Communist Party), but even Russian imperial symbols (not only the St. George’s Ribbon, the St Andrew’s flag, and monuments to Ekaterina, but even monuments to Pushkin and place names connected to the names of Russian tsars and Ukrainian Hetmen who truly served them). They already start to slowly “decommunise” even Bogdan Khmelnytsky.
While the Russian army returns to itself both its historical Soviet (connected to the liberated cities in Ukraine, Belarus, Poland, and Germany), and imperial (in 2013 Vladimir Putin’s decree the 1st separate rifle regiment received Semenovsky’s name, and the 154th independent commandant’s regiment became Preobrazhensky) names, the Ukrainian army is being definitively cleansed of any Soviet or Russian past. Baser minded politicians and servile generals consider that they thus sever ties with Russia.
No, they sever ties with their own military tradition, definitively destroying the remains of the army’s pride, turning the last semi-remained State institution into a crowd of armed marginals who are eager for loot and self-affirmation at the expense of the unarmed citizens of their own country, and who are capable of doing nothing else except pogroms.
By abolishing traditions, the Ukrainian General Staff also abolishes the Ukrainian army. I am even afraid to assume what they will abolish next in Ukraine just to spite Putin.
Why is Justin Trudeau’s Military Attache in Ukraine Meeting With A Nazi Militia?
https://twitter.com/intifada/status/1014595002838798338
Canada is emigre heaven for Ukraine Nazis. Check the history of the migration (flight from prosecution and revenge) of Ukies to Canada. Big connection with same groups in US.
So, country 404 (Ukraine) is connected politically and emotionally with Maple Leaf Liberal Trudeau’s Canada.
Walker
That is true. There is a large “Ukrainian” group in Canada. However, the question is how many of them are from western Ukraine, being followers of Bandera’s Nazis. When Canada permitted them to come, the Canadian Government knew what it was doing. The intent was to use them as a Trojan Horse in a future “independent ” Ukraine, ie. turning Ukraine against Russia. The current Canadian minister of foreign affairs is a daughter of one of Bandera’s Nazis. She did not become minister by accident. Those who put her there knew what they were doing, expecting her to follow an anti-Russian policy, as she is.
Justin Trudeau = Jewish Mafia asset
Ukraine = Jewish Mafia asset
Nazis = Jewish Mafia project
Oligarchs only want a strong state when its fully under their control.
Multiple Oligarchs only occasionally trust each other enough to have a strong state under joint control.
Otherwise, Oligarchs regard a state as the same way organized crime regards the government ….. competition!
One of the best articles by Rostislav Ishchenko, I have read yet. He is right on all points. Especially the “thing” about tradition and history, even history that includes valiant defeats.
Having served in a small European armed forces, of little significance, the traditions were important, tracing the regimental story back centuries, to its few victories, many gallant defeats, illustrated and motivated its soldiers to defend the Fatherland, if need be. It also through its use of conscription, bound the armed forces very close to the publiccs perception of belonging to a country, a unity of people, who where national, when needed.
Turning the army to fight its own population, is the “never do” of any state. History clearly reveals that, so many examples of this are evident, even some Roman Emperors and Senators were aware of this danger. The State for this purpose utilizes, police units or militias, exactly because the risk of alienating its populace from on of the pillars of a State, the armed forces. I can thing of several police forces and militias through time, who served exactly in this purpose; taking the “flak” for being the State’s oppressive tool
Even a repressive State may come in need of its armed forces for willing defense ( Argentina during the Malvina’s conflict is a good example).
The militarization of US police and the abandonment of conscription in the US armed forces, are to me, alarm klaxons going off with fervor. The signs of a Federal government sent counting.
A brilliant article, should be required reading on military academies and NCO schools.
“illustrated and motivated its soldiers to defend the Fatherland”
“Lasting approximately six hours, the German ground campaign against Denmark was one of the shortest military operations of the Second World War.” [Dildy, Douglas C. (2007). Denmark and Norway 1940: Hitler’s boldest operation. London: Osprey Publishing Ltd. ISBN 978-1-84603-117-5]
Those danish heros must have hidden all the danish butter cookies from the evil nazis.
“No sweets for you, Mr Hans.”
Same as the french who heroically refused to say ‘Guten Tag’ when a german solder
walk by.
Medals for all!
Mod. Insult deleted.
I can only ask of you to educate yourself better. 9 of April 1940 is certainly no day to be proud of, but it is no day to be ashamed of either. The fighting ended on the direct order of the Danish King Christian X, who had been directed threatened by the German Gesandt that the would bomb Copenhagen if resistance did not stop immediately, which it then did app. an hour later. Warsaw was in clear memory. Danish losses 11, German losses 203.
Denmark had an non aggression treaty with Germany.
We were then a small and a relatively poor country, with the weakest defense ever in history and an air force in name only.
However those that did fight will never be forgotten, as will not those that lost their lives on Allied side and those in the Resistance during the Occupation.
Mod. Insult deleted.
RATM
You sure gave a “brilliant” military analysis. In 1940 Denmark was helpless against the German military. There was no way it could stand up against it, bearing in mind Denmark is a small, flat country, impossible to defend. Even stronger armies had tough fights with the German Army.
“Danish losses 11”
this is incomplete, because there were surely 6000 more Danish losses –
the 6000 Danes that joined Free Corps Denmark (Danish: Frikorps Danmark)
that were part of the Waffen-SS which subsequently got minced to pieces
by the Red Army.
Yes, tradition is interlinked with culture, in all spheres of life. However, what does this mean in the case of Ukraine ?
So far more than 10.000 sailors of the Ukrainian Navy have deserted and joined the Russian Navy. More than 8.000 conscripts have deserted from the Ukrainian Army and fled in all directions, with one brigade alone losing 500 conscripts. About one month ago a Ukrainian conscript in a video openly stated that if Poroshenko attacked the Dobass, he will have nobody left to fight with, as all will have deserted. Last year Ukrainian police were raiding night clubs in Kiev and arresting draft dodgers. You don’t fight a war with such conscripts.
What does the name of Ukraine mean ? It is derived from the Slavic word “krayina”, and it means “frontier region”. Ukraine was the Western frontier of Russia. There is no such thing as the Ukrainian ethnic group, as Ukrainians are all descendants of Russians, ie. they are Russians. The exception to this rule is the current western part of Ukraine, the former Galicia which, due to history, has mixed blood, the people having Russian, German, Polish, Hungarian, Scandinavian and Balt blood. They consider themselves citizens of Ukraine, but not Ukrainians. They provided the backbone to that coup d’etat against Yanukovich in 2014, and not ordinary Ukrainians. The Ukrainian “language” has 90 % Russian words and 10 % Polish, with some Western words.
I see that top Ukrainian military leaders are trying to eradicate communist and Russian traditions in the Ukrainian military. Laughable. Yes, they can eradicate communist traditions, but never Russian, as Ukrainians are Russians. Last year a former Ukrainian PM openly admitted that by December of 2017 some 4 million Ukrainians have fled to the west and 4.4 million to Russia. Russia is accused of “invading” Ukraine, yet 4.4 million Ukrainians flee to Russia. What is that supposed to mean ? It means that Ukrainians know they are of Russian origin. This month a serving Ukrainian minister has admitted that 100.000 Ukrainians are emigrating from Ukraine every MONTH. What is to become of Ukraine ?
Ukraine is an artificial creation. At least 70 % of it was created on Russian lands. It has no future, as it is artificial. Even it’s “President”, Poroshenko, has US citizenship. Remarkable. Analysts are already predicting that it will break up into three parts, and it’s going that way. The US and EU, backed by others, instigated that coup d’etat against Yanukovich in 2014 without fully grasping what they were doing. They did not fully understand Ukrainian history. The aim was to bring Ukraine into the EU and NATO. The result ? Ukraine is slowly drifting back into Russia. The West did Putin a great favor. He is now playing the waiting game, waiting for Ukraine to collapse financially, as it will After that it will collapse politically. Putin has reunited Crimea with Russia and layed the foundations for the reunification of the eastern part, the Donbass. This leaves central Ukraine. As for western Ukraine, I don’t think Russia has any real interest in it, bearing in mind the composition of the population.
Finally, just to point out what many have missed. Lukashenko, President of Belarus, has stated that Belarus might well become part of another entity. This is a clear reference to the Russian Federation.
With that coup d’etat against Yanukovich in 2014, the West has started a chain reaction which cannot be stopped. I wonder how many times Putin laughed, watching developments. The clear winner in the end will be Russia, which will have reunified its historical lands.
B.F., I don’t think Putin laughed, he considers Slavs outside of Russia as part of the Russian family, so to speak.
Nor were many ignorant people right to claim that Putin would invade/destroy Ukraine, because he knows what suffering he would cause to the Slavs there.
He wants Ukrainian Slavs back…when the time is right.
Ralph
I do think that Putin laughed on numerous occasions. As I have already stated, the US and EU started a chain of events with that coup d’etat in Kiev in 2014. Instead of driving Ukraine against Russia, they are driving it into Russia, at least the bulk of it. Belarus follows, perhaps even before Ukraine. That coup d’etat was a masterpiece of stupidity by the West, which did something without realizing what it was doing.
The coup in ukraine was threefold:
one was obviously to get it under Western influence, as well as plundering the country etc.
two was in line with PNAC to contain/cause problems for Russia.
three was the involvement of influential ‘jews’, probably also including zuckerberg (read some of his statements on that country) etc., who consider the ukraine area as a ‘jewish’ homeland, which has no basis in fact ito the Bible.
The West has been outsmarted by Putin.
Very interesting post.
While doing a tedious maintenance job I have been listening (books on tape) to Robert Massie’s bio of Catherine the Great, and this essay resonates strongly with incidental but relevant bits that keep cropping up in the history of the Yekaterina era about these imperial regiments.
I have often noticed the disconnect between exhortations that institutions and social groups should “change” and let go of their traditions, and the celebration of other groups’ and families’ 400-year-old “traditions.” There always seems to be a subtext, or unexamined premises, when it comes to the desirability of “tradition” and continuity vs. “change.”
“Creative disruption” generally seems to lead to waste and destructio
Katherine
Perhaps it is “highly likely” that the impetus for this destruction of the Ukrainian army came from its paymaster—the USA deep state which operates similarly in the US: Corrupt the upper levels and then demoralize the lower ones. Voila ! A potential source of alternate and independent power in the society is eliminated. What remains can be bend to the will of those who direct and who have the master plan.
There is a plan unlike those who think that the deep state runs just by means of intersecting Venn diagrams and common ideology.
Yes, cui bono when strong loyalties and traditions are destroyed?
In the case of the Nazi “tradition” in Ukraine, it might well be agood idea to destroy it.
But not by burying in amnesia and denial. Instead, by highlighting and “never forgetting.”
Reminding the contemporary world of the Nazi “bloodlines” in Ukraine and elsewhere.
If the US minders are mandating these changes in the Ukraine military, perhaps it is with the goal of erasing both the “bad” Nazi past and the nearer and in many eyes “good” or at least foundational Soviet past.
Very likely the USA minders have not read a shred of the longer history of the area. It is truly a fascinating “crossroads” region. Home, in various not-so-long-ago era to the Golden Horde, the Cossacks, the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, then Crimea was wrested by Russia from the control of the Turks, . . .Truly an amazing region, and big. Many of Catherine the Great’s most important advisers and administrators were from the Ukraine. Grigorii Potemkin’s main role was to develop and integrate Ukraine more effectivley into Russia and also develop the region’s military role. Clearly, as of the mid- to late 18th cent. Ukraine was very much a part of Russia and Russian culture.
The idea of “americanizing” it or even “europeanizing” it seems ludicrous and maybe like paddling upstream.
Katherine
Katherine
Destroying the Nazi tradition in western Ukraine, the former Galicia, is virtually impossible, as that part of Ukraine has mixed blood, the people regarding themselves as citizens of Ukraine, but not Ukrainians. The US and EU used them as the chief driving force in the coup d’etat against Yanukovich in 2014. Big mistake. This driving force drove Crimea back to Russia and created the Donbass. Both the eastern and central parts of Ukraine will eventually end up in Russia, where they used to be. As I have written before, both the US and EU started a chain reaction without fully understanding what they were doing. They did Putin and Russia a remarkable favor, although that, of course, was not the intention.
“Voila ! A potential source of alternate and independent power in the society is eliminated. What remains can be bend to the will of those who direct and who have the master plan.”
Cf. “Gleichschaltung” by the Nazis.
Destroy civil society insititutions and organizations.